The customer's November 2023 FDA PAI inspection was also the third FDA inspection of the project Tieguai Liu did this year. In September, Tieguai Liu also went through an FDA PAI inspection, which was aimed at the bulk drug project. This inspection involves more difficulty. The inspection involves production lines including: sterile bulk drug production workshop, sterile preparation (non-final sterilization) B A product production workshop, and the products are highly active products.
Tieguai Liu has always been a fan of challenging inspections, especially when it comes to difficult inspections of non-final sterile injections. Durst DST has helped Sichuan's enterprise to do the overall quality system audit and verification audit many times in 2021 and 2022, and the basic regular pits involving FDA's six major systems have been smoothed out. In 2022, customers once set aside the president's office as a conference room for Durst DST's team as a special FDA inspection conference room, in which drinks and snacks are provided. Here again thank the customer up and down the team to provide us with the perfect on-site office conditions.
I vaguely remember that three days before the inspection, I worked with their verification manager and production partners to do more than 2:00 a.m. to help them make a key verification. The results were approved by the prosecutor on the first day of the inspection. In July 2022, the perfect first world war was completed. In the end, there are only two minor defects. The inspector even directly announced in my opinion at Ending Meeting that you can pass. However, in the end, I waited for a few months for the EIR report, but everything was Perfect. During this inspection, Tieguai Liu also became friends with the prosecutor. We were supposed to have a party in Beijing in November, but Tieguai Liu had to postpone it because of his foot injury. The DST team was also approved by the prosecutors and customers.
In 2023, friendly cooperation will enable us to start new cooperation. We have arranged relevant senior experts to systematically diagnose the customer's QC, the whole process of this product-related process, cleaning and production, helping the customer to pull out all the key risks. Even if the risks cannot be solved, our small partners will have some prevention in advance. It is not convenient to elaborate on the specific details here (confidentiality agreement related).
In fact, the iron turn Liu is a bit wordy. It is estimated that after the leg was injured, it became wordy. We do international projects-the biggest advantage of products going to sea for Tieguai Liu is that we do it right, foreign prosecutors will recognize, praise, and let our customers pass. This is the biggest motivation for Tieguai Liu to insist on consulting this industry. Enterprises do not need to fight too much interpersonal relationships, spend a lot of money or too much energy to deal with government relations. This can also be seen in Fun 1 below.
Now I 'd like to share with you all the interesting things during the FDA inspection.
Fun One: "Simple reception", "Reject people from thousands of miles", dining is not an easy thing.
In fact, the reception is never simple, especially for the inspection of the fate of life and death of the enterprise. We are worried that we are not doing well and let the prosecutor pick a bone in the egg. What is the sentence that said? "You make me unhappy, and I also make you unhappy". There are not so many moths to check this abroad. This time the prosecutor is a woman. In fact, she was also a woman during the inspection in September. Maybe she ran into it this time. It didn't go well for this reception, Zhenzhen. The prosecutor comes from a city in the southern United States, where the climate is like Guangdong and Fujian. Let's guess which city. But the prosecutor is very afraid of the heat. In fact, the local weather during the inspection was really good, probably at 18-25 ℃. In the afternoon after receiving the inspector, the outdoor temperature was 22 ℃. In this case, the weather had turned cold. It is also understandable that star-rated hotels in the mainland (hotels chosen by the prosecutor himself) do not provide central air-conditioning refrigeration. As a result, the prosecutor lived on the top floor and felt hot when entering (estimated to have different physiques), so he could only change one floor. But the result was even worse. On the second and third days, the inspector found that the ground was leaking. It was really a disaster, and the key could not be solved. This sudden accident made the prosecutor very unhappy, but he has already moved home once. The prosecutor really doesn't want to move again, because he doesn't know if there will be other "moths" in the end of moving again ". Every time there is a water leak on the ground, only clean elder sister can handle it. After two days to the third day, after unremitting communication, the hotel decided to turn on the refrigeration. However, the prosecutor can only be depressed. In the next few days, the temperature finally dropped! Although the living was not satisfactory, the prosecutor did not take this out on the enterprise. This point we very much for the foreigner's civil service dedication thumbs up!
In addition, for simple activities or outings arranged by the enterprise, including accommodation, meals, all AA, and even small gifts to the prosecutor (only as friendly letters), the prosecutor refused one by one. The prosecutor stayed in the area for 10 days. Except for a formal dinner with everyone in the middle, the other dinners were all done by himself. We are still a little worried about this. But this period of time has been iron turn Liu lucky enough to have been with the prosecutor 7 days lunch this big meal. For this inspection, I was a little worried at the beginning, especially when there were several findings in the process, which were considered to be relatively risky. Tieguai Liu and the customer made a rectification plan during the inspection. During the inspection, the inspector said that some defects were written down anyway. At that time, there were indeed great worries. I thought to myself that the prosecutor was not living well, eating well, and would not attend the big meal. I don't know what will happen, it seems that everyone is worried about unnecessary. Because in mid-December, last Friday to be exact, the mail received was already passed!
Not an easy meal.
The prosecutor is not willing to have dinner with many people. Apart from the first day when the boss and Liu 7 people with big heads, I was accompanied by two other partners for the rest of the days. For what to eat, it doesn't matter, the biggest relationship with who to eat. Many Chinese don't like humor. Actually, I'm not good at it either. But Bo world of mortals smile, still need.
Before eating every day, I will think about many Topics. For female prosecutors, I actually have more pressure. The elder sister herself doesn't talk much. A good topic is often important. Otherwise, everyone will stare at each other with small eyes. Fortunately, this iron crutch Liu has some experience and can amuse the little-talked prosecutor with our two food lovers every day.
Even this American silver-haired elder sister (her hair is all white), who was said to be reluctant to take pictures of other enterprises before, took a picture with us.
Moreover, Tieguai Liu found that the period was Thanksgiving Day in the United States. We also prepared a simple Thanksgiving lunch for the inspection teacher. The customer's administration was very good. I gave some advice to the administration based on my poor understanding of American culture. During Thanksgiving, although it is not luxurious, I believe it is also worth remembering that someone in a foreign country can spend a big festival with him. This time, it is rare for this inspector to drink our white wine (white wine).
Fun two: "armed to the teeth of secrecy".
During the inspection, the prosecutor kept himself very secret, even more than we thought. In the iron turn Liu get some new information, the relationship between the United States and China is not very good, do not rule out in the pharmaceutical industry to China more stringent "means". This is the news that has been spreading outside. I believe this possibility cannot be ruled out. For example, this seems to be reflected in this inspection. I am also an accompanying expert for the FDA inspection in 2022. The prosecutor can let us take pictures of the contents of his notebook to find information, this time not at all. Even if someone is on her side, she will deliberately put the notebook in a more partial position, so that the neck of the person who wants to peek is bent into a "duck neck", at least it is also a giraffe! If this time the prosecutor caught, it would be a capital embarrassment! As for the interesting story of confidentiality, here are two examples. The prosecutor checks in the office or on the spot, and the prosecutor always takes the book with him. So that in the office, when I went to the toilet, I saw her casually take the notebook into the bathroom.
At noon, when she goes to the scene, she will put away all her things and use the zipper with lock to lock every zipper of the backpack!
The prosecutor only needs to turn on the computer and put on the anti-candid film before turning on the computer!
(Tieguai Liu did not dare to shoot directly, for fear of being driven out. However, there is really this thing on a treasure!)
Fun three: the prosecutor "disturbed the rhythm", "a diversion"! Let you never know what her next move is, unable to prepare.
The prosecutor did not follow the routine at all. For example, she asked for a lot of documents. Well, you plan to follow the order and provide some documents that you are very sure. She doesn't look at what she has provided in the past. First of all, these documents are what she wants, for example, in the morning. So, she's the only one who orders soldiers.
In fact, in terms of inspection strategy, this is indeed much better than the EU inspection, and it also gives the people being inspected a lot of headaches. Not only is your document too late to plan the order well, for the SME experts being inspected, it becomes an unprepared adventure. It seems that when you were sleeping very hard, the other party suddenly cut you. You have no mental preparation.
Even at the back, we joked to our friends in the war room that you would send the information you did not prepare so well to the prosecutor! There are a few information, you also don't say is really useful!
For such a strategy, we only have to stabilize our position, speed without chaos, SME experts must be nearby, otherwise we cannot arrive in time, resulting in the situation of prosecutors and so on.
Fun four: prosecutors "duplicity", enterprises should be firm!
The prosecutor almost talked about it several times during the inspection, and I did not accept some rectification. At that time, my heart was very cool. We all know that the FDA inspection in the United States is not just a matter of the "master" at the scene. They will give the information to the inspection and evaluation center and will have a "final account". This is the most horrible thing. I have listed these defects for you and will not tell you the level. You can do it at your own discretion!
Therefore, the 483 defect items given by FDA have no minor defects in our enterprise's rectification strategy. The enterprise should deal with the defect level of Major at the lowest, otherwise, will you be at ease in your heart? Haha, Tieguai Liu will give you a "torture of the soul", please be the person in charge of the enterprise, the chairman of the board, the person in charge of production and the person in charge of quality.
During the inspection, the inspector emphasized that even if we rectify it, some defects will still be recorded. However, in fact, as long as the rectification items we make are convincing enough, many Finding will still be released. Therefore, if your inspector says so, you still insist on the rectification and make rectification during the inspection. Of course, if the CAPA of the rectification is effective, ha!
Fun 5: "Weak water is 3,000, only take a ladle of water".
It's the same analogy that Tieguai Liu often makes. The biggest difference between our foreign inspections and those at home is that they are very objective and only want to reach the depth. Do not seek the breadth of the inspection, do not seek to be comprehensive. The inspection was almost the last day, and it was found that there were still more than n things that had not been read, including the documents for several days in front of them, and even the whole QC documents had not been remembered and read.
However, we need to remind the inspector every day: our documents are ready, you can check them at any time, and the preparation of documents on the spot really requires the relevant personnel to cheer up.
Finally, the prosecutor will still give an evaluation of the results of the inspection.
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